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  • Mark your calendars - May 13th - Feedback on the Active transportation network
    skyeS skye

    Here's what I posted on the AT feedback page

    https://letstalk.kamloops.ca/atplan/city-wide-priority-projects-cycling-map/share-your-thoughts-priority-projects-cycling-map

    Thank you for hosting the AT Public Engagement Session on May 13. I heard many productive discussions and I hope to see the feedback integrated into the AT Master Plan.

    My major concern is the prioritization framework that produced the current list of 0-10 Year Corridor Projects.

    A connected AT network is critical to the success of the Kamloops AT Plan. Without connected routes between neighbourhoods and destinations, the city's stated goal of encouraging mode switching to AT will not be achieved.

    Currently there is no AT connection through downtown between the North and South Kamloops AT networks. The 1st Ave & 2nd Ave projects should be top priority to connect St Paul St to Lorne St and Uji Way and the Overlanders Bridge. In addition, a counter should be installed on the path to the Overlanders Bridge to start measuring AT traffic on this critical network connection. Only what is measured can be improved.

    There are many examples of the latent demand for connected cycling networks in urban areas. Nearly 20% of urban dwellers are now non-drivers and the number is rising. Non-car-dependent neighbourhoods are some of the most desirable places to live in all of Canada. Penticton is completing the last segment of their protected Lake to Lake Bikeway and has seen 20-30% annual growth in ridership, with 120,000 rides counted in 2024. Kelowna now has 300 kilometres of on-street bike lanes and 40 km of separated paved multi-use paths, and recorded 2.7 million bicycle trips across their dozens of bike counters in 2024. I lived in Vancouver's West End before and after the construction of the cycle network, and saw an explosion of cycling, normalized as a regular mode of transportation by people that do not identify as cyclists. Sadly, Kamloops is falling behind similar cities despite our excellent weather that allows AT travel nearly year-round.

    With that in mind, I strongly believe that the following should be AT Plan priorities in the next 5 years:

    1. The establishment of a Major Route Network, one North-South and one East-West - an AT backbone between all areas designated urban in the OCP and Transit Oriented Development Areas, fully connected with no gaps, safe intersections, and clear wayfinding. These areas will have the highest density and the largest number of car-free households.

    The North-South major route would connect Summit Dr, Xget'tem Trail, 6th Ave, St Paul St, 2nd Ave to Victoria St to 1st Ave, Lorne St, Uji Way, Rivers Trail to Overlanders Bridge, Schubert Dr, Westsyde Rd with no gaps.

    The East-West major route would connect TRU (via the much awaited TRU AT bridge for 15,000 students), Dalgleish Dr, St Paul St, Nicola St, Valleyview Dr, Gala Dr (to Dallas Dr as soon as possible), with no gaps.

    This Major Route backbone could be built quickly for minimal cost (compared to car infrastructure) using quick build methods such as curbs, modal filters, and paint, and would immediately create a highly visible, connected network with new and existing spur routes branching off.

    As others have pointed out, MUPs are not appropriate in busy areas such as downtown, Riverside, or Schubert Dr. Mixing bicycles/e-bikes/e-scooters at 20-30 kph and pedestrians at 3-5 kph (including small children, the elderly, mobility device users, and dogs) guarantees conflict and does not show consideration for any AT users, considering the amount of space and investment given to motor vehicles.

    1. The connection of schools and shopping destinations to the Major Route Network.

    The state of AT infrastructure connecting Kamloops schools is severely lacking. TRU desperately needs the AT bridge to Dalgleish Dr, Valleyview Secondary has an unprotected painted bike lane that drivers regularly drift into or park on (and Glenwood Drive has no sidewalks or bike lanes at all), the York/Lethbridge/Fleetwood cycling route (which passes 4, soon to be 5 schools) is in mostly terrible condition with many dangerous intersections. Residents complain about school traffic endlessly, but there are few other options. Normalizing AT at a young age creates habits that last a lifetime. Would you let your child ride to school on any of these routes?

    While most existing shopping centre designs are rather hostile to AT users, AT routes to malls and shopping centers - especially the Northills and Valleyview Shopping Centres that are in or near Transit Oriented Development Areas - should be connected to the AT network as soon as possible.

    Kamloops is growing very quickly and the establishment of a highly visible Major Route AT network backbone will both make Kamloops a more desirable, healthy, and quiet place to live, and encourage new residents to use AT as their primary transportation. The easiest and cheapest time to build the AT network is today.

    General Public Discussion

  • Mark your calendars - May 13th - Feedback on the Active transportation network
    skyeS skye

    @trentsmith said in Mark your calendars - May 13th - Feedback on the Active transportation network:

    You have to go to "City Wide Priorities- Cycling", then on the right of screen there is a "Read and Contribute" button.

    Took me a minute to find it too, here's the direct link:

    https://letstalk.kamloops.ca/atplan/city-wide-priority-projects-cycling-map/share-your-thoughts-priority-projects-cycling-map

    Lots of good submissions, keep them coming

    General Public Discussion

  • Overlanders Bridge resurfacing summer 2025
    skyeS skye

    Saw this today:

    https://cfjctoday.com/2025/05/12/city-of-kamloops-looking-for-contractors-to-rehabilitate-overlanders-bridge-this-summer/

    The City hopes work can begin by June 16 with substantial completion by Oct. 10 this year, just ahead of the Thanksgiving long weekend.

    “This project involves the removal and reinstatement of asphalt and concrete at the abutment and expansion joint locations on the Overlanders Bridge deck,” the city said in a Request for Proposals (RFP) document that was issued in early April.

    “This will also include the removal of existing construction joints and replacement with asphaltic plug joints. Additionally to the deck work, the separated pedestrian path textured surface will be removed and replaced.”

    General Public Discussion

  • Mark your calendars - May 13th - Feedback on the Active transportation network
    skyeS skye

    Not sure how busy it's going to be but if I can get someone's ear at the Transportation Dept here are a few of the things I'll be talking about, feel free to use:

    • The importance of a connected network spanning east/west and north/south (vs patchwork approach eg 6th Ave)
    • Separated walking (3-5 kph) & cycling/e-scooter infrastructure (20-30 kph) vs shared paths especially in busy areas eg downtown & Seymour redesign
    • Encourage use of "quick build" paths for separated network especially around schools
    • Build the TRU AT bridge that has been studied since 2012
      https://www.castanetkamloops.net/news/Kamloops/505117/University-says-it-now-supports-City-of-Kamloops-desired-location-for-proposed-10M-overpass

    I know the city is concerned with budget right now but afaik they already put aside $5 million for the TRU bridge and it's a 50/50 cost split with the uni. Getting 15,000 students connected to the nascent Kamloops bike network would be a huge win.

    General Public Discussion

  • Mark your calendars - May 13th - Feedback on the Active transportation network
    skyeS skye

    I'll be there!

    General Public Discussion

  • City wants everything to be a Multi Use Pathways
    skyeS skye

    @Tom-R said in City wants everything to be a Multi Use Pathways:

    I've seen an online link in my e-mail. Here's their main one but I can't find the letters section (brief look). They do list hard copy locations, too. https://kamloopschronicle.com/

    Picked up a copy, great letter. I like the tone of how you presented the facts, how it benefits everyone, and the call for civility.

    Chronicle A9 2025-04.jpeg

    General Public Discussion

  • KCC Monthly Meeting?
    skyeS skye

    Great meeting, thanks!

    It answered so many of my questions about where the city's AT plans are & where the KCC wants them to go.

    General Public Discussion

  • Active Transportation Plan Update 2025
    skyeS skye

    The Jan/Feb AT Plan Update pdf under "Communications Plan" said there were going to be two meetings with the Active Transportation Engagement Group, before and after refinements, is that not happening now?

    • January/February 2025 - meeting with the Active Transportation Engagement Group
    • March 2025 - follow-up meeting with the Active Transportation Engagement Group after
    Active Transportation Plan refinements

    General Public Discussion

  • Active Transportation Plan Update 2025
    skyeS skye

    Sorry to hear that, my next question was going to be about how the follow-up meetings with the Active Transportation Engagement Group went. I hope we can get more AT advocates on city council during next year's election. In the mean time I'll do what I can to provide feedback during the public consultation phase.

    General Public Discussion

  • City wants everything to be a Multi Use Pathways
    skyeS skye

    Thanks I'll grab a copy of the paper.

    When I saw the quick build infrastructure plans in the AT Plan Update I was hoping there had been a change in philosophy.

    Figure 12 Quick Build Cycling Infrastructure Delivery
    Figure 12 Quick Build Cycling Infrastructure Delivery.jpg

    General Public Discussion

  • City wants everything to be a Multi Use Pathways
    skyeS skye

    I really don't know how to get it through to the transportation planners that mixing cyclists at 20-30 kph and pedestrians at 3-5 kph is not a good idea. It feels like they do not actually know what using a bicycle as a transportation mode instead of a recreational activity actually looks like.

    It's like designing a single lane road mixing cars and horses.

    General Public Discussion

  • City wants everything to be a Multi Use Pathways
    skyeS skye

    Last week I posted this question on the Let's Talk page for the AT plan:

    https://letstalk.kamloops.ca/atplan

    Q: Are the painted bike lanes on Valleyview Drive going to be replaced with curbs?
    Every spring the painted bike lanes on Valleyview Drive are completely worn off and drivers frequently drive in the bike lane because there is no paint. Are there plans to replace the painted bike lanes on Valleyview Drive with quick-build curbs and bollards? Valleyview Drive serves two schools and a daycare and it's not safe for kids or anyone else using active transportation.

    A: Thank you for your question. A proposed plan has the Valleyview corridor being updated to a multi-use pathway, which would take active transportation users off the roadway! We hope that helps.

    I'm really concerned that the City continues to think MUPs are the answer to everything.

    A MUP that goes up and down every street crossing and driveway, and mixes pedestrians and cyclists would be a STEP DOWN from the current painted bike lane on the roadway.

    In my other topics about the Active Transportation Plan Update 2025 the proposed future north-south network connection through downtown is also currently marked as a MUP. This would be the spine of the entire AT network, and they think it's appropriate to mix bikes, e-scooters, and pedestrians?

    Frustrating...

    General Public Discussion

  • Active Transportation Plan Update 2025
    skyeS skye

    The list of short term priority projects (next 0-10 years) from the report is attached below.

    The first thing that jumps out to me is that the list still does not contain a downtown connection between the north and south AT networks.

    In the cycling plan attached above, both 1st Ave and 2nd Ave are marked as Proposted AT Improvements - Multi-Use Path (Priority) but neither are included in the 0-10 year projects.

    In my opinion, this lack of a connection between the Nicola/St Paul bikeway and Lorne St/Uji Way/Overlanders Bridge should be the top priority in terms of "ungapping the map".

    Thoughts?

    Short-Term Plans 0-10 Years pt1.png Short-Term Plans 0-10 Years pt2.png

    General Public Discussion

  • Active Transportation Plan Update 2025
    skyeS skye

    Hello, as many of you are no doubt aware the City is updating the Active Transportation Plan this year. An Active Transportation Plan Update was provided to the city council Committee of the Whole on Jan 21, 2025, the full document can be found here under agenda item 5.1:

    https://kamloops.civicweb.net/Portal/MeetingInformation.aspx?Org=Cal&Id=1578

    Summary:

    "The Kamloops Transportation Master Plan sets out future projects and priorities for active transportation infrastructure, such as bike lanes and sidewalks. Council adopted the Transportation Master Plan in 2018. The plan combined older plans, such as the 2010 Bicycle Master Plan and the 2013 Pedestrian Master Plan.

    Since 2010, guidelines and standards for active transportation infrastructure have been significantly updated, and community interest in using active modes, such as cycling and walking, to travel has grown. More recently, the City entered the Provincial Electric Kick Scooter Project, which will attract more trips of emerging transportation modes to the active transportation network.

    To ensure that the City’s Transportation Master Plan stays aligned with community needs and modern design guidelines, staff initiated an update to the active transportation component of the Transportation Master Plan in 2023. While this updated Active Transportation Master Plan will be incorporated into the overall future Transportation Master Plan update, completing the active transportation portion earlier will enable the City to plan and budget for higher-quality infrastructure without waiting for the remaining Transportation Master Plan update to be completed. It will also better position the City to apply for infrastructure grants earlier."

    It's encouraging that the City has recognized that there is urgency to updating the Active Transportation component of the TMP as soon as possible, and that they have recognized that quick build infrastructure to build out a connected network as quickly and cheaply as possible is preferable to the way the 6th Ave bikeway was designed.

    The entire PDF linked above is interesting reading, it details the process for ranking projects (could use improvement imo), consultation, timelines, and the projects the City considers priority corridors.

    The timeline outlined in the document is as follows:
    • January/February 2025 - meeting with the Active Transportation Engagement Group
    • March 2025 - follow-up meeting with the Active Transportation Engagement Group after
    Active Transportation Plan refinements
    • April 2025 - second round of public engagement

    • open house(s)
    • Let’s Talk Kamloops
      • May/June 2025 - Council adoption

    I've extracted and attached the images for the report below. Unfortunately the detailed maps in the PDF are low quality and it's hard to make out details, I sent an email to the Transportation dept a few months ago to try and get higher resolution maps but didn't get a response.

    Looking forward to discussing the positives and negatives of the City's plan with KCC.

    • Skye

    Figure 1 AT plans timeline.jpg

    Figure 5 Existing Corridor Map.jpg

    Figure 6 Short-Term Corridor Map.jpg

    Figure 7 Facilities near future Kamloops Centre for the Arts.jpg

    Figure 8 Facility near future Arena Multiplex.jpg

    Figure 9 Proposed Project Corridors in the North Shore.jpg

    Figure 10 Proposed Project Corridors in South Kamloops.jpg

    Figure 11 Proposed Project Corridors in Outlying Areas.jpg

    General Public Discussion

  • KCC Monthly Meeting?
    skyeS skye

    I've seen a monthly meeting mentioned a few times.

    But I've never received any information about when or where it is, only the AGM is mentioned in the latest newsletter. No info on the website under Events or Get Involved that I can see.

    When and where is the monthly meeting?

    Thanks,
    Skye

    General Public Discussion

  • Forum Use Plan
    skyeS skye

    Hi just joined, great to have a KCC forum, I've got lots to share.

    I found out about the forum from the KCC newsletter, but it doesn't look like the forum is linked from the main KCC website yet? Not on the front page or in the menus.

    The website is probably getting updated right now, imho the forum links should be more prominent than the Facebook group links. Facebook is a terrible platform for organizing.

    I suggest condensing a bit just so on a brand new forum things don't appear too unused/dead and instead encourage activity without being spread too thin. More categories could certainly be added in any time it appeared we could utilize some separation.

    I've run big forums for several decades and in my experience this is a good approach, don't have too many sub-forums at the beginning. If the main/general discussion forum gets too busy, then look at splitting it up.

    Buy & Sell can be a big draw, but it can also be a headache for moderators if deals go sideways.

    KISS is good, get the basics nailed down and work on driving engagement.

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